Bach 12E vs Kelly 12C
The Bach 12E has a wider cup diameter.
The internal diameter of the cup, measured at the widest point inside the rim.
Mouthpiece A
Bach 12E
• Trombone
Cup diameter24.50 mm / 0.9646 in
Best suited for
High-volume projection — open throat for power
vs
Mouthpiece B
Kelly 12C
• Trombone
LeadCup diameter24.13 mm / 0.9500 in
Best suited for
Lead trombone; smallest cup
Cup Diameter
The Bach 12E has a cup diameter of 24.50 mm / 0.9646 in compared to 24.13 mm / 0.9500 in on the Kelly 12C — a difference of 0.37 mm / 0.0146 in. A wider cup generally produces a fuller, darker tone but requires more air support.
Which is better?
Neither mouthpiece clearly dominates the other — the right choice depends on your embouchure, playing style, and the sound you're after. Try both if possible.